{"id":59319,"date":"2025-01-31T15:47:52","date_gmt":"2025-01-31T20:47:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.veritext.com\/?p=59319"},"modified":"2025-12-11T14:44:35","modified_gmt":"2025-12-11T19:44:35","slug":"depo-talk-ep10-taking-the-arg-out-of-taking-an-arb","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.veritext.com\/depo-talk-ep10-taking-the-arg-out-of-taking-an-arb\/","title":{"rendered":"Depo Talk | Ep. 10: Taking the &#8220;ARG&#8221; Out of Taking An &#8220;ARB&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l757cdit-a1704c58836d19872f6ebf2e60301ed7\">\n.avia-section.av-l757cdit-a1704c58836d19872f6ebf2e60301ed7{\nbackground-color:#ffffff;\nbackground-image:unset;\n}\n.avia-section.av-l757cdit-a1704c58836d19872f6ebf2e60301ed7 .av-section-color-overlay{\nopacity:0.5;\nbackground-color:#ffffff;\nbackground-image:url(https:\/\/www.veritext.com\/wp-content\/themes\/enfold\/images\/background-images\/polygon.png);\nbackground-repeat:repeat;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div id='av_section_1'  class='avia-section av-l757cdit-a1704c58836d19872f6ebf2e60301ed7 main_color avia-section-default avia-no-border-styling  avia-builder-el-0  el_before_av_section  avia-builder-el-first  avia-bg-style-scroll av-section-color-overlay-active container_wrap sidebar_right'  ><div class=\"av-section-color-overlay-wrap\"><div class=\"av-section-color-overlay\"><\/div><div class='container av-section-cont-open' ><main  role=\"main\" itemprop=\"mainContentOfPage\"  class='template-page content  av-content-small alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-59319'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<div  class='flex_column av-1o7b14x-b42f29faa9a933602f1699a41b9cf8d7 av_one_full  avia-builder-el-1  avia-builder-el-no-sibling  first flex_column_div  '     ><style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l757ejb5-cfe1c8a673f506cc8ac24e86139af430\">\n#top .av-special-heading.av-l757ejb5-cfe1c8a673f506cc8ac24e86139af430{\npadding-bottom:10px;\ncolor:#0074c8;\n}\nbody .av-special-heading.av-l757ejb5-cfe1c8a673f506cc8ac24e86139af430 .av-special-heading-tag .heading-char{\nfont-size:25px;\npadding-bottom:10px;\n}\n.av-special-heading.av-l757ejb5-cfe1c8a673f506cc8ac24e86139af430 .special-heading-inner-border{\nborder-color:#0074c8;\n}\n.av-special-heading.av-l757ejb5-cfe1c8a673f506cc8ac24e86139af430 .av-subheading{\nfont-size:15px;\n}\nbody .av-special-heading.av-l757ejb5-cfe1c8a673f506cc8ac24e86139af430 .av-special-heading-tag .heading-wrap:before{\nborder-color:#0074c8;\n}\nbody .av-special-heading.av-l757ejb5-cfe1c8a673f506cc8ac24e86139af430 .av-special-heading-tag .heading-wrap:after{\nborder-color:#0074c8;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='av-special-heading av-l757ejb5-cfe1c8a673f506cc8ac24e86139af430 av-special-heading-h1 custom-color-heading blockquote elegant-quote elegant-centered  avia-builder-el-2  avia-builder-el-no-sibling  av-icon'><h1 class='av-special-heading-tag '  itemprop=\"headline\"  ><span class='heading-char avia-iconfont avia-font-entypo-fontello' data-av_icon='\ue83c' data-av_iconfont='entypo-fontello' ><\/span><span class=\"heading-wrap\">Welcome to Depo Talk!<\/span><\/h1><div class='av_custom_color av-subheading av-subheading_below'><p>Episode 10: Taking the &#8220;ARG&#8221; 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data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l75azefp-8f198a9c4f2f50ac0d89da0ad6a37b36\">\n.av_promobox.av-l75azefp-8f198a9c4f2f50ac0d89da0ad6a37b36{\ncolor:#414042;\nbackground-color:#ffffff;\nborder-style:ridge;\nborder-width:1px 1px 1px 1px;\nborder-color:#0074c8;\nborder-radius:10px 10px 10px 10px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='av_promobox av-l75azefp-8f198a9c4f2f50ac0d89da0ad6a37b36 avia-button-no  avia-builder-el-18  avia-builder-el-no-sibling '><div class='avia-promocontent'><\/p>\n<div class=\"avia-testimonial-content \">\n<div class=\"avia-testimonial-markup-entry-content\">\n<h3><strong class=\"avia-testimonial-name\" data-wp-editing=\"1\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-62531 size-square alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.veritext.com\/images\/2025\/11\/2025-Headshot-180x180.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"180\" height=\"180\" \/>JAN BALLMAN | FAPR, RPR, CMRS, DSA-MN<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0074c8;\">Veritext &#8211; Minneapolis<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Jan began her career as a court reporter in 1981. In 1990, she was elected President of the state court reporters association. This experience afforded the opportunity to meet many outstanding court reporters and industry leaders. In 1993, Jan collaborated with two highly regarded colleagues\u2013Jayne Seward and Lisa Richardson\u2013to form Ballman, Richardson &amp; Seward. Five years later, Jan led the merger of BR&amp;S with two well-known and highly respected firms\u2013Schultz &amp; Sorenson; and Oliver, Mitchell &amp; Maves\u2014and launched Paradigm Reporting &amp; Captioning on January 1, 1998.<\/p>\n<p>After a 20-year career as a court reporter, Jan retired her steno machine in 2002 in favor of taking the helm of Paradigm on a full-time basis.<\/p>\n<p>A recognized leader at both the state and national level, Jan was bestowed Minnesota\u2019s highest honor, the Distinguished Service Award, by the Minnesota Association of Verbatim Reporters and Captioners in 2004. In 2010, Jan was elected to serve on the Board of Trustees of the National Court Reporters Foundation and was honored to accept the appointment as Chair of the Board from 2014 to 2016. In August of 2017, Jan was inducted into as a Fellow into the Academy of Professional Reporters. Currently, Jan Ballman is the only court reporter in Minnesota to have attained the professional distinction of FAPR.<\/p>\n<p>Outside of her chosen profession, Jan enjoys working with local nonprofits, mentoring tomorrow\u2019s leaders, and exploring the world of wine. Since 2011, Jan has been delighted to chair \u201cLegal Wine Lovers,\u201d an official affinity group of Minnesota Women Lawyers.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-p3sx4x-91050d747fe8570d1f8ed4d4fa97b946\">\n.flex_column.av-p3sx4x-91050d747fe8570d1f8ed4d4fa97b946{\nwidth:49.25%;\nmargin-left:1.5%;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='flex_column av-p3sx4x-91050d747fe8570d1f8ed4d4fa97b946 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-19  el_after_av_one_half  el_before_av_hr  flex_column_div  column-top-margin'     ><style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l75azssu-3f6125d81767f44ce5b9fee8b972e88d\">\n.av_promobox.av-l75azssu-3f6125d81767f44ce5b9fee8b972e88d{\ncolor:#414042;\nbackground-color:#ffffff;\nborder-style:ridge;\nborder-width:1px 1px 1px 1px;\nborder-color:#0074c8;\nborder-radius:10px 10px 10px 10px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='av_promobox av-l75azssu-3f6125d81767f44ce5b9fee8b972e88d avia-button-no  avia-builder-el-20  avia-builder-el-no-sibling '><div class='avia-promocontent'><\/p>\n<div class=\"avia-testimonial-content \">\n<div class=\"avia-testimonial-markup-entry-content\">\n<div class=\"avia-testimonial-content \">\n<div class=\"avia-testimonial-markup-entry-content\">\n<h3><strong class=\"avia-testimonial-name\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-54215 size-square alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/veritext.com\/images\/2023\/12\/Rosalie-Kramm-2023-180x180.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"180\" height=\"180\" \/>ROSALIE KRAMM | RPR, CRR<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0074c8;\">Veritext &#8211; San Diego<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Rosalie Kramm began her career as a court reporter and owner\/operator of Kramm Court Reporting in San Diego, California over 30 years ago, before joining Veritext Legal Solutions, the national leader in deposition services.<\/p>\n<p>She sat on the Court Reporters Board of California with the Department of Consumer Affairs from 2013 through 2018 and has served as president of the Deposition Reporters Association of California, Society for the Technological Advancement of Reporting, and General Reporters Association of San Diego.<\/p>\n<p>Kramm is a Certified Court Reporter in California and holds the national license of Certified Realtime Reporter. 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